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AUTHOR SUBJECT: VHS: who believes in its comeback?
Sv Bell | Black Flag Pictures
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Posted: 4/7/2016 6:57:40 PM
I dunno. It's a possibility. Sony already declared that VHS tapes can technically hold HD movies or higher. A simple matter of codec, much like the digital betacam. And a backward compatible player to read them of course. So who knows.

Many folks said a couple of years ago that vinyl records would never come back. And now in 2015, they were the main revenues for record labels. Cassettes are back on the market, and electronic shops confirm that they have lots of requests for tape decks. So who knows.

Remember David DeCoteau? He's been producing indie films since decades, with over 120 feature films to his credit. And with his distribution company he's releasing VHS tapes again. So, who knows...

David DeCoteau's Rapid Heart Studios.



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Mike Conway
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Posted: 4/8/2016 7:50:39 PM
 I noticed that some movies never got a digital or DVD release.  They are only on VHS.  One of those is FINAL APPROACH, with Hector Elizondo.  I may just order it, as I still have VHS machines.
Sv Bell | Black Flag Pictures
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Posted: 4/8/2016 8:47:47 PM
 I believe "The Keep" with Jurgen Prochnow never got released on DVD either.
Trillion
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Posted: 4/10/2016 9:34:32 PM
I had no idea vinyl records or tape were back.  What the heck!

I don't think it will last. Everything for me is digital even most books.

Sv Bell | Black Flag Pictures
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Posted: 4/11/2016 5:17:21 AM
Yes, vinyl records are back, and for the second year in a row in 2015, they were the main revenue source for record labels. A couple of millions album sold generated more than the billions of digital streams.

And since music is always ahead by a few years on the movie industry, I wouldn't be too surprised physical media like tapes become the leading revenues for film studios.

Mike Conway
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Posted: 4/23/2016 1:26:00 AM
 "I believe "The Keep" with Jurgen Prochnow never got released on DVD either."

Funny you should mention that.  I believe this is a bootleg that was made from the LaserDisc.



Sv Bell | Black Flag Pictures
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Posted: 4/24/2016 7:19:10 PM
Yeah I've seen bootlegs of The Keep but you're right, it probably comes from laserdisc.
Same goes for Danger Diabolik, and george Pal's The Power. It's a shame they never got released officially.

Funny enough, I just bought from a friend of mine a laserdisc player, and a few dozen laser discs.

I wonder if / when Sony will move ahead with their HD VHS tapes. Since they announced it, I haven't heard any availability date. They may be working on a player right now. Sony is losing billions in revenues with streaming and digital media, so they must be working on a solution to get back to profits. One thing I hope is that they make an eventual new VHS play backward compatible.

mokkimachi
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Posted: 8/1/2016 11:14:56 AM
VHS and S-VHS never left me. 

What did leave me is my VHS machines.  I'm down to my last one. 


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Posted: 8/1/2016 2:04:25 PM
I think that a VHS or vinly record boom will be seen as just a blip on the chart of an otherwise downward spiral. I don't like the idea of everything existing only on the cloud though.  I love owning a copy of my favorite movies but given a choice, I'd rather have a disc than a tape.

Sv Bell | Black Flag Pictures
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Posted: 8/1/2016 2:53:54 PM
Younger generations rediscover the pleasure to own something. They're also bored of being ripped off by digital companies. You pay real money but never own anything. It's not a matter of generation, they won't adapt, this business model just can't survive. Physical media has a brilliant future.

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Posted: 8/1/2016 3:43:00 PM
I'm with you, Sv, and I hope you're right! There is something about having something physical to own.  George Carlin called it "stuff".  Wherever we go, we bring our stuff.  I think it's a part of being human to want stuff. .. People are reading books digitally with the Kindle. Not me.  I want paper in my hand.  I want to put it on the shelf when I'm done with it...  Some people I know would say "what for? you've already read it" or "you've already seen the movie, why the need to own it?".  I can't explain it except that it's some of my stuff..

I remember thinking when vinly was replaced with CDs  wow, future generations will miss the joy of opening a new vinyl album and marveling at the jacket and sleeve while playing the music.  Sure, a CD has an insert but it's so small.  It's not awesome, if you know what I mean.....  Plus, we use to filter the seeds out of our pot using an album cover that opens :) !



mokkimachi
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Posted: 8/2/2016 2:03:52 AM
I have no more space for physical stuff so I like digital. 


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Posted: 8/8/2016 10:32:52 AM
If any outfit was to do digital VHS, Sony should be able to manage it. Their DAT audio recorders worked well enough. Digital audio was being done earlier on the old half-inch EIAJ reel-to-reel recorders experimentally.

VHS was not renowned as an enduring archive but most of my tapes one way or another have lasted. Some however are becoming distinctly "spotty".

Analogue vision would go to hell in a handbasket or just have an inconvenient band across the image depending on just where the tape got scratched.

Digital on VHS might be expected to go totally dead like MiniDV/HDV unless there were redundent digital streams which the size of the VHS media might permit. Then it might become an option for enduring archive.

I really miss the convenience of the VHS and later DVD rental stores. You could just speed-scan the shelves and flip a slick if you wanted to read more info. Now, all this button clicking or screen-dragging of small screen real estate sends me mental.

This internet streaming lark has knobs on it. None of the vendors will show you their line-up until you join. A lot of their stuff is old news.

Yeah I know. don't dwell in the past. Progress is progress. - maybe?

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