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AUTHOR SUBJECT: Why DVDs and Blurays Remain Essential
Sv Bell | Black Flag Pictures
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Posted: 12/28/2016 8:54:17 AM
An article I shared on my blog. Worth a read!
Why DVDs and Blurays Are essential In The Age Of Streaming.




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Posted: 12/28/2016 11:14:59 AM
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Posted: 12/29/2016 5:44:21 AM
I can't get to your article due to the firewalls we have set up where I work. The military.. such a paranoid group..... anyway, as much as I hate the idea of seeing discs vanish or, at least, become a niche product, I think it is happening and is inevitable. ... You can see how the disc producers are trying to fight it though. You buy a disc and you get a little booklet and a digital download... You get multiple versions of the movie plus hours and hours of behind the scenes documentaries. You don't get any of that when you stream a movie on-line... on the other hand, for the cost of one disc you can gain access to thousands and thousands of movie any time you want in the comfort of your own home or on your stupid little fuking phone for an entire month.. Most consumers seem to be going for the unlimited movie services like Netflix and Amazon.. It's a trade off and a compromise. When I'm standing in front of a display full of movies on disc at the store and I see one I really want to watch, I ask myself; is it worth it to buy this thing?.... More times than not I don't buy it. I go home and see if it's available on-line. If it isn't, I wait because I know it will be. The only exception for me is when the movie has done something ground breaking and I want to watch the behind the scenes documentaries more than I want to see the movie. Then I will buy it every time. Discs will probably never go completely away but there may come a time when only select movies are offered that way. That would be more bad news for indies which would pretty much mean streaming or nothing... I think there are gimmicks that can be used to entice buyers into picking that movie up on disc... The presentation of the disc can also be modified. Right now most discs are presented like a paperback book in the sense that they do not have the prestige of a hard cover book.. Only a few get the hard cover book treatment...... I received the Alien quadrilogy(sp) for Xmas. Let me tell you, the presentation is gorgeous. It looks and feels like a book. You open it up and there are pages in full color. Flip the page and there is a jacket with the first Alien movie.. flip a few more pages and you find the 2nd movie..... THAT is the way to present a movie... Just to be clear, I'm not say the presentation was brilliant because it looks like a book. I'm saying the presentation gave it the prestige of a hard covered book, as apposed to a soft covered book.. If the 4 movie set just came is a typical disc case, the value of ownership would have been diminished... So, maybe put your movie in a book with a few pages of pictures, interviews, behind the scenes pictures, whatever.. You might ask yourself, "I'm just an indie producer. What could I possibly put on those pages that they will want to see?" Good question. It's like asking "why will anyone want to watch this film?".. if you can't answer that one, maybe you shouldn't make the movie.. The book idea is just one but it is a good one. There are others... The future of disc? We will see..... (sorry for the lack of paragraphs. For some reason the line breaks don't show up when I'm posting messages from my work computer..
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Posted: 12/29/2016 8:22:44 AM
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Posted: 12/29/2016 9:10:56 AM
That's awesome, you'll love that Alien box set! It also has the Aliens extended edition, with the entire scene of the terraformers being invaded by the parasite.

And yes, definitely, film studios will do everything they can to keep the physical media alive, since it does bring in profits, and they rely on profits to fund more movies. Streaming doesn't generate anything for them. It's a major loss of revenues, killing the entire industry. Netflix is a time bomb that will implodes when all producers will give up making movies. Netflix started to produce content - using the money they don't send to exterior film studios, actually. It's like if you, Mike Conway and Marius were giving me your films, I monetize on them using my subscribers, send you a few pennies, and use most of the money to produce original content. That's what Netflix does. They have tens of millions subscribers but still can't make profits. The business model is bound to collapse, it just can't work.

DVDs are there to stay for quite some time, since producers need it for revenues, and movie lovers want to own movies they enjoy. Buyers are paying real money for movies, they want real stuff in their hands. It answers why people don't want to pay for digital stuff. 10$ a month for unlimited movies? What's the share that comes back to the people making these movies? Someone, somewhere paid big bucks to make these films.

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Posted: 12/29/2016 3:07:24 PM
Sv, I think you follow the business much closer than I do so I feel encouraged when you say  you believe discs are here to stay for quite some time..  I hope so..

I have to wonder though, how can Netflix and Amazon and the others have so many titles available if the producers are all getting screwed.  I mean, if I owned the rights to, let's say, The Warriors and Netflix was only going to earn me a thousand bucks a month, why would I make the deal..  Netflix has a lot of  films that are past their life span but some of them are still in their prime and still capable of making money.  Something is missing.  Maybe the deals that Netflix makes with the majors is different than the ones it makes with small time distributors.

People do want to own things that they can hold in their hands. It is a part of being a human.  Things are more real when we can touch them.  They become more personal.  That is why people still buy books and DVDs ..... but it doesn't explain why FEWER people are buying books and DVDs.  Why are people losing the desire to be able to hold the things they own in their hands?? I love my DVD/BluRay collection.  I love my book and magazine collectoin.  I love my notebooks that are filled with things that I wrote.,, and I love computers but I don't want a computer to become a book and a DVD and a notepad... You turn off the computer and what do you have? Nothing.... The internet is out, what do you have? Nothing.... It's the same reason that many people do not like CGI characters instead of animatronics and special make-up FX.  Turn off the computer and it's gone.  That's how it is today...  I'm not a psychiatrist but I think that people use to enjoy at some level knowing that the Alien was actually created and worn by a man.   It was something that you could touch (if you had the chance),,,,,,, or that E.T. is a real movie creatue that performers and puppeteers make come to life, and that they could touch (if they had the chance)..  The Avator blue creatures don't exist when you turn the computer off.  Once you know they are CGI there really is nothing more to talk about.  You could never touch them.  They don't exist.  People did not will them into some form of physical reality......When someone comes over to your house and sees somthing interesting on your shelf, what is the first thing they want to do?  They want to touch it. They want to hold it....  Someone said in one of the Star Trek films that things only seem really real when you touch them.  Even if you can't touch something because it is thousands of miles away or because you don't have access to "it", I believe it still registers differently in your mind knowing that you could touch it if you ever had the chance....  You can never touch a streaming video or a digital book or streaming music.... So why are fewer and fewer of these things being sold??  The obvious answer is that I am wrong.... People don't want to be able to touch the things they own... I don't believe that but it is the obvious answer.....

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Posted: 12/29/2016 9:22:55 PM
I don't really know why studios still leave some of their titles to Netflix and Amazon. Likely because they're under contract for a certain number of years, once the agreement will be over, things will get critical for Netflix. Some studios launch their own streaming channels. Sony launched Crackle, for instance. They own pretty much the whole content of Crackle, so there's revenue to be made, and no need to share with a third party - like Netflix.

But I don't know the clear answer. I only know that it doesn't pay much. The math is simple, again. $10 a month for a massive library of titles can't possibly generate great revenue share for the content producers.

But Netflix - much like Google - is a Ponzi scheme. It works because investors believe in it and keep on throwing millions in it. Netflix is in the streaming business for over a decade, and it's still not generating profits. Company said in 2013 that they'd break even and enter in profits in 2014, and it didn't happen. They postponed to 2015, and it still didn't happen. Then they said 2016, still no profits. Last general meeting they said 2017. The company is growing, they have a massive amount of subscribers, but at the same time, their expenses are growing exponentially. Eventually, investors will no longer believe them, and start placing their investments somewhere else, where profits comes in annually. That's usually when Ponzi schemes collapse. It takes 4 days for a large scale company to disappear. Day one, investors start pulling their money and selling their stocks. Day 2, the company runs out of capital. Day 3, banks freeze the accounts associated to the company before they lose everything as well. Day 4, employees of the company find the doors locked, and it's over. Ponzi schemes have no other money than the investors'. When investors feel the company's market to be bearish, they leave the ship. So Netflix, ten years and still no profits, it may not last very long.

As for why there are fewer and fewers sales in home video, I believe it's because the audience is smply saturated. Movies are everywhere, litterally. Buying a new tablet? It comes with free movies. New cable TV subscription? Comes with free movie channels. Buying a new mobile phone? Free movies. Connected to the internet? Movies all over the place, legit or not. Movies licensing is litterally out of control, studios lost track of what film goes where. No wonder they're complaining about their profits being drained.

People aren't bored about DVDs, people still like the physical media. But they're just saturated for now.

The good news it, historically, movie business follow the same path as music business, lagging by a couple of years. And for music, see what's happening these past couple of years. Vinyl records are back, new record labels are forming, and more importantly, new record factories are poping out. With new factories, prices of records will go down. Prices going down, more people will buy records. Take a peek at your local music store, in the vinyl records section. Lots of teens and youngsters in their early 20s. They aren't there because of nostalgia. They want something real, something cool in their hands. They're born with digital music, MP3 and streaming, they've seen that their whole life. And there's nothing appealing in that anymore.

The same pattern will come to the home video.

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Posted: 12/29/2016 10:33:19 PM
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Posted: 12/30/2016 5:35:06 AM
Strangely put but, yes, make them into playthings..... and I'm not 5 years old in my mind..... I'm 17.

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Posted: 12/30/2016 6:32:45 AM
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Sv Bell | Black Flag Pictures
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Posted: 12/30/2016 8:02:54 AM
Haha new avatar, James? I love your The Thing sculpture!!!

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Posted: 12/30/2016 7:18:50 PM
Thanks, Sv!  I make those things to sell on Ebay.  So far I have been wildly successful... I've sold one.... BUT, I have given away more than that as good bye gifts to people who have retired from my place of employment. 

Marius, I get what you're saying.  I too have a digital image of you. Without embellishment, I see you as a clown who only comes here for his own amusement. At times I find my digital image of you frightening and even dangerous. Of all the people I've met on the Internet, you are the only one I wish I had never met. I've made friends and enemies but you are the only one I sense something truly disturbing in. ..... and for the record; I'm not wrinkley or sagging and if we ever did meet and you talked to me the way to talk in cyberspace, you would quickly find out that I am not a 5 year old.

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