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AUTHOR SUBJECT: WHERE'S THE SOCIETY VIDEO THREAD?
SLEEPTILLNOONPRO
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Posted: 9/10/2017 7:15:55 PM
 ???????
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mokkimachi
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Posted: 9/10/2017 10:11:11 PM
Really, two threads on this?  Why don't you just fill the entire page with threads about it. 

SLEEPTILLNOONPRO
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Posted: 9/10/2017 10:20:34 PM
I screwed up. So sue me.
SLEEPTILLNOONPRO
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Posted: 9/10/2017 10:27:39 PM
 Why did you take it down Marius? Did you let James get to you?
mokkimachi
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Posted: 9/10/2017 10:38:09 PM
No more "society video" nonsense for you until you actually make a society video. 

SLEEPTILLNOONPRO
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Posted: 9/10/2017 11:52:36 PM
 And no more buying your shit until the Society Video thread is restored. 
mokkimachi
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Posted: 9/11/2017 12:38:40 AM
"And no more buying your shit"

Fine.  No more "shit" for sale to you.  I'm blacklisting you right now!!!  As soon as I can find some black paper to write on.  Otherwise it'll be a whitelist, and that's the opposite of what would be intended. 

You just wait until I get to the stationary store. 

SLEEPTILLNOONPRO
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Posted: 9/11/2017 2:14:52 AM
 And get rid of that mokkimachi avatar. It's weird.
Mike Conway
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Posted: 9/11/2017 1:17:55 PM
 Kind of a shame.  He changed the thread to "I ate chicken for lunch." 

www.indieclub.com/icmessageboard/thread.asp



SLEEPTILLNOONPRO
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Posted: 9/11/2017 3:43:06 PM
 Yeah. And he's being weird too.



Mike Conway
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Posted: 9/11/2017 10:04:42 PM
 Weird is his normal.  Perhaps, more weird than usual.
SLEEPTILLNOONPRO
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Posted: 9/11/2017 11:10:56 PM
 He's been this way ever since James and him had their latest spat.
Velusion
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Posted: 9/12/2017 2:50:44 PM
Maybe you guys are just now seeing what I've seen for quite a while.  He is  unsettling and not very pleasant to engage in any kind of conversation..  The best thing I can say about him is that I'm glad he is in Africa and not any place closer that would give me cause for concern...  I don't know what happened to him but he is not the same person he was back in the day( or maybe he is and we didn't know yet).  I pity him, but beyond that, I do truly wish he would just go away so that maybe we could talk comfortably with one another.

Mike Conway
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Posted: 9/12/2017 11:24:16 PM
 Yeah, I miss the film conversations (ALIEN CONVENANT, etc.).  We had a few good threads with just 4 or 5 of us.  I'm hoping that kind of interaction isn't over, for good.
mokkimachi
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Posted: 9/13/2017 12:33:01 PM
Lol, wow!  Never thought the day would come we see prior always-cocky James as a senile old little man, scared shitless of me.

Ok listen up everybody, I have a statement to make.  About indieclub and me, and specifically James so that James doesn't die from anxiety or something.  He's already been all "I don't know what your game is!!!  Whaaaaa!!! Help me!!!" and so forth and forth and then had to take a break from a nervous breakdown. 

So, here is the tale of indieclub and me.  A tale of misunderstanding and intrigue, and someone called james.  Yes, I heard you all laugh at the latter, but wait for the story.  It's not really a comedy.

Well aside from James, there is Aldridge and a few other extras who are also part of the story, but fortunately none of them seem to have gone completely crazy and Aldridge knows the story between him and me, so I'm not going to repeat it here.  We'll mostly focus on the tragic tale of James Rogers, just to have a focus point so as not to be all over the place.  But thank you to everybody else who was also part of the journey.  Even more so to those who gave it a few positive moments.     

Once upon a time, I stumbled upon a yellow site called "Indieclub".  At the top of the site, the banner reads:  "IndieClub - Networking actors, filmmakers and crew". 

Ah, how fitting!  Said I.  I'm a filmmaker and actor, and here I can network!  I shall obey, mister banner!

For those of you who don't know what "indie" means, it means independent filmmaker who makes films with his own money, instead of with the money of a major studio.  And networking in this instance means to find and involve others in filmmaking projects.

The first of my work I mentioned on indieclub, was a time traveling sequence I was working on, with images.  It was commented on by two people who I would much later know as James Rogers and Mike Cervello.  I can't remember if James said something good or bad, but I do remember he was very firey.  Seemed like a fellow who takes filmmaking very seriously.  Or he's got a hot coal stuck up his butt. 

But life was busy and I forgot about indieclub a little later. 

But I did remember again and rejoined because by then my previous login details had escaped my memory.

And now I'm tired of the story.  So let's just jump to the point:

I did get somebody to network, among the few people the very same James Rogers, who seemed a bok for sports.

James did one or two small tasks for my filmmaking projects and sent me some stuff and sold me other stuff and bought some of my movies, as did a handful of others.

Which had me thinking from time to time, could such online networking really work?

Well I didn't get any indicative answer because James Rogers got banned and indieclub died.  (James did join indietalk.com but after 4 days was banned there too.) 

I did meanwhile receive quite a few emails from other indieclubbers though that James Rogers is trouble and must be avoided at all cost.  Nonsense, thought I;  the guy's just a talented eccentric who's frustrated because he can't get his life dreams fulfilled so he acts out like a freak crying on the inside.  I think I can relate.

Anyway, as for my far-off fantasy of networking as a global online machine, I sometimes fantasized about one day building it to something useful where I could perhaps gather some cyberteam who would work like a normal offline team, and handle everything from whatever was needed, to marketing and distribution.  I wish I gave it more attention back then but I also had a crazy life that took me on many paths and it was hard to focus on just this idea of online networking, which might or might not be a feasible idea anyway for me as well as others.

Meanwhile, as for Indieclub it got really boring and needed some more trouble, which I gladly provided.  But I soon realised indieclub is really a kind of clique site and I wasn't in it and no longer cared and was banned.  No wait, I wasn't banned.  Whatever.  The site was history for me.
 
Anyway, then passed almost a decade during which indieclub was completely forgotten.  But then I go through an old movie marketing notebook of mine and find the names of all the old sites again, many now no longer in existence.  But revisiting indieclub, I saw James Rogers just joined some days earlier.  What are the odds.  Is it time to have another adventure at indieclub?  Sure, why not.  Why let James suffer alone.  

And would I again network on indieclub?  I joined but it took some days and I just about forgot. 

But then I did get the membership.  So, shall the networking commence? 

No, I soon learned.  This site says "Indie" at the top, referring to indie filmmakers, but nobody on the site actually makes films at all.  I'm the odd one out. 

It says "networking", but no, networking is impossible because nobody has the will. 

Even James Rogers will now not network;  he says it will sully his reputation (yes, I laughed my ass off at that one too.  Pompous ass! :D :D ). 

He will not make available his raptor dinosaur sculpture for my dinosaur movie when asked whether he has sculpted any dinosaurs. 

He will not act in a cameo in my movie;  that would entail filmmaking and he doesn't have the guts to make a movie. 

He will not do what he loves, which is to sculpt sculptures for films, when asked.  No, I did not ask;  he's the one who said he would love to see something he sculpted appear in a film again.  So I offer he can make sculptures for a movie I'm making that's just about completed, and he can get his wish to see his sculptures in a film.  Declines he does;  something about me loving pizza more than him.

Bottom line, James has purposely made himself of no use to me now.

He did request I make a movie for his pleasure though.  A "society video" he refers to it as. 

At first sceptical about the work and purpose, I did make it.  And did I make it!  Lovely production.  It was fun. 

But of course James Rogers had deleted himself off indieclub to get away from me, and wasn't there to respond to the premiere.  Only much later when the "society video" trend was long over, did he come back and write "Good society film, Marius!"  Right.  All that work at his request, for three generic words.  What an ass.

No, we can't do friendship because we're incompatible.  Nor can we just chat.  I'm too boring.  He can't support my moviemaking either because then I'd have to support his moviemaking and he doesn't make any movies because moviemaking makes his brain bomb.  It makes him spaz out and go crazy.  Filmmaking seems to be the one thing James can't talk about.  It's the trip switch that blows up the fascility that is him.  It's a severely explosive mental block.  Mental note:  NEVER encourage James to make a movie.

Yes, one might think this website is for filmmakers and their doings and struggles to make films, but make no such mistake.  It's becoming a clique of people who DON'T make movies and only perhaps talk about what the studios are doing. 

It would appear James still expects me to respect him and act like he is severely valuable, but the truth of the matter is I can't do anything with him now.  Maintaining relations with him any further is pointless.

I don't know what opportunities James is waiting for, but by all indications he'll soon just pack up his talents, take his Mexican mama and go retire in Florida to live out his last few years in the old folks lifestyle, chewing tobacco on the porch and waiting impatiently for Days Of Our Lives to come on, their only daily excitement, whilst waiting daily for death to make them start rotting away.   

And that will be the end of that. 

Anyway, I'm not angry.  I'm fully at peace with how things went down.  In fact, James, I'll give you these basic, simple assurances to make you happy and help make you re-enjoy this forum: 

1.  I shall NEVER, EVER ask you to be involved in any filmmaking project ever again.  It was stupid of me and I apologize.  So just relax.  No stress, and your... ehem, "reputation" shall remain as it is:  Bad.  :D :D :D  Just kidding.     

2.  I shall NEVER, EVER suggest you make your own film.  No siree.  Film nada.  Nope.  I know you want to, but nope, you don't have what it takes and you're ashamed of it.  I won't even mention you should make a film ever again.  You're too old for ambitions.       

3.  I promise to intend not to chip in to your conversations.  So chat away as comfortably as you wish, and fear not that I'm going to share a viewpoint or an opinion you don't feel like hearing.  So talk all the bullshit you want about nonsense and inconsequentialities you see in mainstream movies or whatever.  I'll leave it to Sv Bell and Mike Conway to entertain you in those fields.  I find them too goddamn boring.

4.  I shall give up on trying to find purpose in why God would put something like you in my life.  I'll just take it as proof God sometimes is drunk and fucks up and laughs about it afterwards.  Sick sense of humor he has eh?  Yeah, both sick as in sick and sick as in rad.  I'll admit I did laugh my ass off for a lot of the ride, so it wasn't all bad.  But still, one asks:  WTF????!!!!!  

Anyway, I'll never think you are more than you are ever again.  It was my fault in judgment.    

5.  Contrary to you who focuses on indieclub instead of actual filmmaking, I'll focus on actual filmmaking instead of indieclub.


Sound good?  Good.  So it is written, so it shall be done. 

And that's our story for today.  Thanks for reading my essay, bitches!  I'm developing this into a screenplay. 

Good night.

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