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AUTHOR SUBJECT: New Kodak Super 8 cameras update
Sv Bell | Black Flag Pictures
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Posted: 4/6/2016 8:25:43 AM
I just received an update from Kodak regarding their new lineup to Super 8 cams. Things are looking good, and they're starting to take reservations. No commitment, no money involved, but you can reserve one and Kodak will keep you informed first hand when they'll be available.
Reservation page is here.

The processing labs are already in place, and Kodak will be offering film cartridges with processing and shipping included. If they want their comeback to be successful, Kodak gotta make sure the whole process is easy and flawless. So far, it looks promising.

If you haven't heard of it, here's a cool article on The Guardian.



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mokkimachi
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Posted: 7/8/2016 12:55:26 AM
Send a film away to have developed?!  What are we, cavemen? 


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Posted: 7/8/2016 3:54:20 AM
Yeah, I use to run to the Photomat booth in the parking lot near the grocery store to pick up my super8 films.. Memories....

I use to look seriously at super8 film as a way of shooting "film" instead of video.. I've got to say, I haven't been able to find any good looking examples of what can be done.  If you know of any, post a link..

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Posted: 7/28/2016 7:44:41 PM
Can't beat the real thing. Film is film, and doesn't have all the limitations of digital video. SD, HD, 4k, 8k, it's all irrelevant. Cameras from the '30s could film at 80 FPS for amazing slow motion, yet most of todays digital cameras still can't do that. Film is organic, and capture life instead of capturing 0s and 1s. A famous director (not sure who, Tarantino or JJ Abrams) said film was looking better because it capture still images instead of recording motion like digital cameras.

As for example, there are plenty on Youtube. There's this Super 8 Logmar test footage: www.youtube.com/watch

Or this one

If yo uplan on giving a shot to film, I'd suggest to go 16mm. It's not that much more expensive, and you can get cameras under 200$. Lumiere, Bolex, Krasnogorsk, Arri, Bell & Howell, Kodak, plenty to chose from.

For processing/scanning, look at Cinelab's price list, it's surprisingly affordable. But its film.


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Posted: 7/29/2016 11:59:17 AM
I hear ya... Long before video I use to say that film was like watching a moving painting. It was never trying to be an exact reproduction of reality (thank god).  It was like another reality.  Video endevours to be crystal clear, high detail, sharp images.  To me, this is not a plus.  It's moving away from the spirit of watching a movie.. Plus, the monitors that we watch the movies on play a big part it all of this.  I was at one of our local furniture stores a while back and I found myself being presented with an opportunity to see what all of this high def, razor sharp technology is capable of.  There were two 55 inch monitors set up in close proximity to one another. They were both showing the same movie, which was shot on video. I can't recall the movie title but it starred John travolta and Robin Williams. Anyway, on one of the monitors, the movie looked like a movie. It was too prestine to have been shot on film so I assumed it was shot digitally, but it DID look like a movie.. On the other monitor it looked like the movie was shot with a prosumer camcorder.  It looked just exactly like you would expect video to look. Sharp vibrant color and  limited contrast range.  I could actually see how artificial the lighting was.  I could see the make-up on the actors' faces.  It was like standing next to the camera and seeming how staged and artificial everything was.  The strange thing is that it also took away from the performance. I felt like I was  watching some weekend actors in a stage play.  I kept bouncing from monitor one to monitor two, comparing everything I could.. Wow! ... A simialiar thing happened when I was in another store watching a "block buster" 200 million dollar special effects bonanza film. I think it was Thor or something like that.  It was aweful!  The lighting, the costumes, the metal props that were obviously plastic. Even the CGI looked more artificial on this monitor than it usually does... I've never experiences that sensation of fakeness while viewing a movie that originated on film no matter what monitor it was being shown on.. So, the monitor does play a big part.

But in the end, we can't stop technology and today's audience doesn't know any better (too young) so the chances of things going back to the way movies use to look  probably aren't too great... Sometimes I wonder  if I prefer the look of film simply because that is what I grew up with for the first 35 or so years of my life or if there is an objective conclusion that can be reached that film does LOOK better.

mokkimachi
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:17:48 PM
The first example looked like video and the second was ill-defined.  Grainyness was severe. 




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Posted: 7/29/2016 3:13:36 PM
Way back when, there was a feature shot entirely on super 8mm film that really stirred my imagination.  It made me want to take a serious look at super8 film as a way of shooting on a budget.  The film is called A Polish Vampire In Burbank..  It doesn't look great but it worked!  I don't think it would have worked if they would have had video available to them at the time and if they would have chosen to shoot with it.  I think it was shot in the 80.  Not sure though.  Check it out.

Sv Bell | Black Flag Pictures
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:48:49 AM
It's right here. Beautiful work indeed. Too bad about the computer titling and CG transition though, it kills the film's quality!




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Posted: 8/10/2016 5:18:34 PM
blaaah, that was a terrible teaser. The movie doesn't have any of that crap.  I have the DVD somewhere. Maybe under the short leg of my desk... Anyway, it has a very good  'making of' documentary.  The guy who made the film, Mark Pirro, has made several others too.. I wonder what ever happened to him?

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